r/politics • u/luvddcups • 5d ago
Manhattan D.A. says attempts to intimidate office won’t be tolerated after Trump’s call for protests
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna756175.2k
u/Major_Magazine8597 5d ago
Why is Trump being allowed to incite violence (again) at no cost?
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u/Zaorish9 I voted 5d ago
I was amazed to see CNN broadcasting and amplifying his threats . It's ridiculous that this incompetent criminal is allowed to do so many harmful things with the support of so many institutions.
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u/Radiant-Shine-8575 5d ago •
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Let’s be honest, CNN would LOVE a massive riot to occur. It would supply them with content for months.
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u/powP0Wpow 5d ago
Michelle Wolf was right...
"You guys are obsessed with Trump. Did you used to date him? Because you pretend like you hate him, but I think you love him. I think what no one in this room wants to admit is that Trump has helped all of you. He couldn’t sell steaks or vodka or water or college or ties or Eric, but he has helped you. He’s helped you sell your papers and your books and your TV. You helped create this monster, and now you’re profiting off of him. If you’re going to profit off of Trump, you should at least give him some money, because he doesn’t have any."
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u/LordPennybag 5d ago
He did their job for them for 5 years. They didn't have to do real interviews or report on anything, just play the latest shit he said and comment on how insane everything is.
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u/AlkaloidAndroid 5d ago
And then interview his staff on air for ideas on how to blame the poor for things such as the "labor shortage"
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u/iwzndsqw 5d ago
wants to admit is that Trump has helped all of you
this is the most important part of the whole rant. i had to stop watching the news in like 2016. It felt like they were having their cake and eating it in the way that they got to stand on the high ground but also lap up the ratings that the outrage brought in.
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u/ItisyouwhosaythatIam 5d ago
And NOW THEY ARE DOING IT ALL OVER AGAIN BY TALKING ABOUT DESANTIS NONSTOP!
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u/iwzndsqw 5d ago
oh. yeah i dont watch the news much anymore haha. i cant .....sustain the outrage cuz my livelihood doesn't depend on it idk
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u/WyleCoyote73 5d ago
He couldn’t sell...Eric
Ouch! That's some ice cold shit right there. LOL
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u/political_bot 4d ago
And to go deeper, we have Robert Evans on the liberal medias failure to confront fascism https://shatterzone.substack.com/p/the-liberal-media-always-fails-against
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u/Sufficient_Morning35 4d ago
Nobody likes Trump, but people are willing to use him for profit. Think Melania looks at him as anything other than an atm card?
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u/Jkj864781 5d ago
Why are we exclusively putting this on CNN?
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u/Darko33 5d ago
In a broader sense, is what he's doing not newsworthy? Should media outlets just not report that he's actively inciting violence? Feel like the onus should be on the authorities to hold him accountable.
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u/RonyTheTiger 5d ago
It should not be covered neutrally, it should be unpacked how truly shitty it is. It’s not journalistic malpractice to call a spade a spade.
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u/SuckItHiveMind 5d ago
CNN is right-wing propaganda machine now, since last year.
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u/FraGZombie I voted 5d ago edited 5d ago
No kidding. I walked into my haircut place yesterday and heard the news on the TV in the back. The way they breathlessly and favorably covered Trump, I was like oh goody, Fox News is on. Nope it was fucking CNN.
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u/CrispierCupid Illinois 5d ago
CNN is a very click baity source, I’ll give the fascists that lmao AP and NPR all the way
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Because nothing has happened yet. When it does, there’s no way he doesn’t get charged. He knows full well what he’s doing. He’s causing intentional harm to Americans by starting riots, and I would consider this a domestic terrorist at this point.
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u/jhorch69 5d ago
His only punishment for inciting an attack on Congress was he got kicked off Twitter and Facebook for a couple years
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u/QXPZ 5d ago edited 5d ago
Nothing has happened yet? Like a mob breaking into the capitol building and police officers dying kind of nothing?
Correction: capitol police officer(s) dying. Isn’t that a form of police? Hard for me to remember all the details.
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u/FightingPolish 5d ago
No consequences for the guy at the top who incited it. Consequences for nobody’s with no money or power don’t matter.
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u/venthis1 5d ago
Honestly, for a country, I can't think of something worse than the capital being mobbed besides a lot more death.
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I haven’t heard anything since the families of the Capitol police officers that committed suicide filed charges. I’m wondering if this lawsuit can and will go anywhere for Trump as well.
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u/KingLouisXCIX 5d ago
They meant he never suffers consequences. He probably could get away with shooting someone on 5th Avenue.
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u/laz45 5d ago
Something about the presidents being above the law
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u/Fit-Firefighter-329 US Virgin Islands 5d ago
No no no, presidents are not above the law; remember when they wanted to arrest Clinton for consensual sex? Or Obama for wearing a tan suit? The GOP was seriously considering this... But it's Trump that is above the law - many people seriously believe he's Jesus Christ: A now former friend of mine thought this - I asked her how she knew he was God; her reply to me was, "how do you know he's not? I have my faith which informs me that he is Jesus returned". When I asked her if she thought his behavior is Christ -like, to which she said, "Jesus is an imperfect vessel"... The GOP would never take a chance prosecuting Trump on the off chance that he really is the Jesus.
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u/aceinthehole001 5d ago
Even if that were true, he's no longer a president
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u/JerryMcMullen 5d ago
And he literally admitted that he's a former president in the same message where he calls for violence.
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So charge him for it
I'm tired of Lex Loser making a mockery of everything and getting away with it.
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u/OtmShanks55 5d ago
This should happen all the time. So they only send letters like this to protect their own but not when he makes illegal threats to media, private citizens, etc. the DOJ just do your job!
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u/Buckowski66 5d ago
It's not as simple as wrong or right. It's all political now. Example:
The FBI Desperately Wants to Let Trump Off the Hook
The way conservatives tell it, the Federal Bureau of Investigation is a hive of anti-Trump villainy, filled with agents looking for any excuse to hound the former president with investigative witch hunts. But the thing to understand about Donald Trump’s legal troubles is that they exist not because federal agents are out to get him, but despite the fact that the FBI is full of Trump supporters who would really like to leave him alone.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/03/fbi-trump-mar-a-lago-raid-prosecution/673251/
They tried to bully prosecutors into letting it go
In Mar-a-Lago probe, prosecutors reportedly stood strong against FBI worries Reported FBI timidity in the Donald Trump classified documents investigation is concerning, but Justice Department prosecutors’ actions are reassuring.
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/deadlinewhitehouse/blog/rcna72875
You can bet he has loyalists in the DOJ as well.
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u/WarpedWiseman Missouri 5d ago
And it works the other way too. Don’t forget that the main reason Comey made public the reopening of the Clinton investigation is that he was worried that Republican spies within the NY FBI office would leak it anyway.
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u/size7poopchute 5d ago
James Comey didn't make it public. He wrote a confidential letter to Congress which was then leaked on Twitter by Jason Chaffetz - R UT.
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u/silverhowler 5d ago
Then Jason Chaffetz right after the election decided to leave office and take a cushy job as a Fox News consultant
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u/bestfrenplank 5d ago
You could argue comey knew 100% there was no way that was not getting leaked.
We have to stop thinking of these people as professionals and leaders but instead reality TV stars on the worst reality TV ever devised. Where the 'real world DC' crew get to decide what we do with money collected from every individual American.
It's a real shame our government still actually provides bare minimum services to most working people. Otherwise why wouldn't we just throw it in the fucking trash?
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u/JayAre88 5d ago
If people would stop voting and supporting the party that's shown over and over to have nil concern about the woes of the working class. That would be a start.
Now instead of Student Loan forgiveness we get anti-trans Healthcare and drag show bans.
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u/Successful_Jeweler69 5d ago
Comey didn’t actually make it public. He gave a classified briefing to congress and someone leaked that classified briefing to the press.
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u/m0nk_3y_gw 5d ago
he was worried that Republican spies within the NY FBI office would leak it anyway.
Comey FINALLY got a clue that the FBI office known as "TRUMPLAND" was slow-walking that investigation, and it would soon leak that they found new emails and they would not be fully searched until AFTER the election. Comey briefed congress on it and then transferred the work to someone actually competent and not a traitor, and they completed the search in days, before the election.
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u/1Eternallylost Michigan 5d ago
Let's call it for what it is. The FBI is still full of agents and directors still loyal and faithful to J. Edgar Hoover.
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u/ShingusDMV 5d ago
Literally, this. If it does come to another insurrection where the goons do his dirty work and someone ends up dying, this time his call for aid is on paper. I hope it doesn't happen, but I shouldn't be surprised anymore.
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u/K9Fondness 5d ago
This time he won't even be able to pardon Roger "penguin" Stone and Ol' Papa Kushner for the insurrectionists' troubles!
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u/kyxtant 5d ago
Exactly.
A guy I used to work with was charged with child abuse. He beat his kid, apparently.
Not that beating your kid is ever right, but he was charged, arrested and released.
His wife found some stuff on his computer like that was threatening the DA. He never threatened the DA. But he had searched where the DA lived and how to hide bodies and destroy evidence. She reported that.
He was locked up and charged and not released after that.
These people in NY are in danger. And Trump has called for action against them.
But it's Trump. Just throw that crime onto the pile...
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u/OutlyingPlasma 5d ago
Just throw that crime onto the pile...
Pile 87, warehouse 58, lot number 1502.
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I’m envisioning it as that warehouse at the end of the Indiana Jones movie, except instead of the Ark of the Covenant, it’s all those stolen files.
The nazis are still there though
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u/memetunis 5d ago
Beat your kid. Meh okay. Look up the DA and you bet we will lock him up.
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u/williamfbuckwheat 5d ago
The trick is to publicly threaten the DA and drive up ad revenue for for-profit media. That way, it's considered "free speech" or someone's personal opinion and most likely nobody will ever do anything about it...
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u/resilienceisfutile 5d ago
Justice delayed is justice denied.
The rest of the world is watching.
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u/Mustysailboat 5d ago
It’s so insane to me. How could about 45% of the American public lost their mind? This is how you know propaganda works.
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u/robodrew Arizona 5d ago
Much closer to 20-25%, at most. The 45% number you're thinking of is just the % of those who voted in 2020. Granted that is still too high
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u/PsychedelicConvict 5d ago
Yeah im taking lex loser. Thats mine now. Thanks
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u/OtisTetraxReigns 5d ago
I think that one’s probably more applicable to Musk. But it is great.
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u/lucidenigma 5d ago
Agreed, how is Trump’s message not obstruction of justice? He’s done this before, and he knows a bunch of gun toting crazies are going to come out.
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u/bushijim 5d ago
Lex loser... Lmao. Made me shoot milk outta my nose.
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u/automatic4skin 5d ago
Are you telling the truth
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u/GeneralZaroff1 5d ago
They never are. Rolling on the floor, Laughing out loud … it’s all a web of lies
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u/Carbonatite Colorado 5d ago
I laugh my ass off regularly. Cheeks all over the place in my house.
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u/PossessedToSkate 5d ago
"What's shakin', Mr. Peterson?"
"All four cheeks and a couple of chins, Woody."
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u/Immortal-one 5d ago
Exactly! “It won’t be tolerated.” Then trump does it. “It won’t be tolerated again!”
Do something about it
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u/Calcutec_1 5d ago
Does that mean that they are actually going to arrest him next week?
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u/Sissy63 5d ago
He’s going to be indicted, not handcuffed. The DOJ has to let Trump’s attorneys know he’s going to be charged. Trump will have to appear and hear the charges read. Hopefully they’ll restrict his travel and mouth
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 5d ago
They absolutely do not have to tell trumps attorneys when or if he's going to be indicted. Doing so would be a courtesy, not a requirement.
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u/ruckusgrass 5d ago
They’ve already said the secret service will be running the show as far as what they allow. They definitely had to let it known beforehand
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u/greensalty 5d ago
Yes the perfectly impartial and definitely not compromised secret service. Definitely not an institution that went scorched earth on their electronic comms from J6. I mean I am beyond just hoping things get handled properly and assuming the worst.
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u/Calcutec_1 5d ago
Cool, good enough for me
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u/Srnkanator 5d ago
Hate to flatten a chub, but it's a formality. Our AG, Paxton, has been indicted for 8 years.
He's been re-elected twice, and hasn't seen a fine or any jail.
Trump, on the least of his charges incoming, is not going to see a day in a cell.
I'd love to see it, but reality is reality, and these people don't get to see what everyone else does.
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u/CAESTULA South Carolina 5d ago
Texas and New York are two different places.
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u/ScoobyPwnsOnU Arkansas 5d ago
You talking about the same new york that was going to nail trump to the wall right up until they dropped the charges?
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u/USS_Frontier Oregon 5d ago
The GOP is an organized crime syndicate. Has been since the Nixon days.
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u/mistermojorizin 5d ago
Speaking of Nixon, trump really loved the guy. Tried to get him to move into trump tower after he resigned.
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u/YoloFomoTimeMachine 5d ago
I think due to logistics of secret service and all that. He may also may just have to hear the charges read online.
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u/Truelikegiroux 5d ago
This guy forced the secret service to take him golfing I don’t even know how many times. They can afford the logistics of his first of many days in court
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u/jestr6 5d ago
Literally a quarter of his time as President was spent on the golf course.
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u/Carbonatite Colorado 5d ago
Some news outlet added up the costs of his golf outings and compared it to pro sports salaries - he was in the top ten athlete salaries in America.
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u/mindspork Virginia 5d ago
And how many of those games were at his properties, thereby paying himself?
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u/baltinerdist Maryland 5d ago
No, not a good idea.
No matter what you think about him, and I think quite a lot of really negative things about him, the last thing anyone needs is for him to become a martyr. I want him to spend his last days on earth a frail old man in jail or at minimum on house arrest with a permanent bar from the internet. I don't want his face plastered on walls like a revolutionary dictator because he went out unprotected and someone made a choice.
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u/Sarcosmonaut New York 5d ago
Besides, he could still have compromising information about the government in his head. You wouldn’t want him being captured for it.
All former Presidents should retain protection. It’s a matter of national security, not an endorsement of his morality or capability.
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u/Dramatic_Original_55 5d ago
He has information in his head? Who knew?
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u/juggling-monkey 5d ago
People are saying he has the best information, let me tell you.
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u/sf49ers65 5d ago
Are you sure any compromising information is still in his head and not strewn about his various offices in cardboard boxes?
Also, you wouldn't have to capture him for it, as I wouldn't be surprised if that dumbass gave any information away to whomever asked.
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u/ominous_anonymous 5d ago
at minimum on house arrest with a permanent bar from the internet.
He would just say he dictates everything to someone or something. There would be no enforcement, and thus no accountability.
He isn't supposed to be living at Mar-A-Lago in the first place. No one is enforcing that, so why would his Internet access be any different?
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u/Specific_Rutabaga_87 5d ago
nope. They said he will be photographed, fingerprinted and processed like any other defendant
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u/Njdevils11 5d ago
Pretty sure by law he must appear in person and be processed. This is obviously a unique situation, but I think it’s a bad idea for any of the investigating jurisdictions to break with procedure. Everything needs to be done by the letter or it will be used against them.
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u/Necessary-Parking-14 5d ago
I just want to see his mugshot.
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u/Walkingstardust Florida 5d ago
I want to see his hair 2 weeks after he's been in jail. I'd pay money for a framed copy
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u/Cl1mh4224rd Pennsylvania 5d ago edited 5d ago
I want to see his hair 2 weeks after he's been in jail. I'd pay money for a framed copy
This is about the Stormy Daniels hush money. While Cohen did jail time for it, I'd be surprised if Trump does jail time.
Personally, I think this is the least serious of the crimes Trump is being investigated for, so I'm not going to be too disappointed if he's not jailed for it. If he's indicted at all, that alone would be a major precedent. If he's convicted, that's an even bigger precedent.
My advice to anyone who wants to take it is: don't get too invested in the outcome of this investigation; it could be precedent-setting, yes, but it's comparatively minor.
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u/zxidokod 5d ago
he's not going to jail. he'll be released after the arraignment
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u/Brandonazz Haudenosaunee 5d ago edited 5d ago
And if he is ever convicted his sentence will be endlessly delayed until a republican politician pardons him, he is elected again, or he dies.
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u/sarahcudapdx Oregon 5d ago
It’s a state charge in New York City. It can’t be pardoned by any President. Plus, NYC doesn’t delay sentencing just because someone is high profile.
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u/marconis999 5d ago
And so in jail, Trump co-wrote his best-selling book Mein Ketchup.
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u/Sissy63 5d ago
I’m afraid you’ll have to wait longer - Trump knows how to delay trials, while collecting donations from his poor flock - but AT LEAST he is going to be charged and tried. But you know he’ll pull every stunt available.
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u/midnitte New Jersey 5d ago
Reading between the lines of his PR release yesterday, Trump doesn't know the difference between arrested and indicted.
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u/Sissy63 5d ago
Oh, he knows the difference - the “arresting me” bullshit is to rile up his base - he needs them ready to go out and commit more violence in his defense. His followers don’t know the difference.
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u/OutlyingPlasma 5d ago
going to arrest him next week
Is there any source for this rumor other than Trumps wittler account?
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u/Calcutec_1 5d ago
That’s what I’m asking, his words are worth less than nothing, so im wondering if this DA‘s comment is a hint towards this having some merit
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u/misterO5 5d ago
Not directly about any specific day. Friday there were a lot of reports from reputable sources like the AP that prior to Trump's claim, that they were preparing security for possible indictments. So it tracks but we'll see. Trump likes to get ahead of the news cycle and would want a bunch of his supporters there. so to me it seems very plausible. He really wouldn't benefit from announcing a specific day, having a bunch of people show up for nothing and basically cry wolf only to have no grand protest if/we he is actually indicted. https://apnews.com/article/trump-grand-jury-investigation-manhattan-e35836ebb6179e1c0ea28877590cfc1c
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u/databacon 5d ago
When will they stop being tolerated? So far they’re being tolerated.
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u/FartPancakes69 5d ago
Any day now...is what they've been telling us for the past six years
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u/AnExpertInThisField 5d ago
Exactly. As much as I'd love to see this traitor being perp-walked into the back of a car, I've simply stopped believing it's going to happen. Hope I'm wrong.
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u/Hamafropzipulops Louisiana 5d ago
He won't be. My guess is he will meet in Manhattan with the DA. His lawyers will make a deal for bail or recognizance and he will walk back out to wait for trial. No photo ops.
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u/theantig 5d ago
“We support law enforcement!” We are going to arrest trump. “Not that law enforcement!” But back the blue? Insert shocked pikachu face
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u/What_its_full_of 5d ago
These are people that beat the crap out of cops two years ago.
Their support for police is merely lip service that applies only when said police are tormenting the right’s perceived enemies.
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u/Branamp13 5d ago
Their support for [issue] is merely lip service that applies only when said [issue] "hurts the wrong people"
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
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u/Even-Fix8584 5d ago
They support cops because they think they are on the same side (many cops might be), but they still won’t get the reciprocity they are looking for. Cops want obedience first and support Trump farther down the list.
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u/ocrohnahan 5d ago
Call for protests!? No, he is inciting outright civil war.
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u/Mylaptopisburningme 5d ago
He was careful with his words. He says protests, but we can all hear the dog whistle.
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u/duddyface 5d ago
There’s not going to be a civil war because this isn’t a state by state divide. It’s a rural/urban divide and all of these “red” states would cease to function without the tax revenue from their blue cities to prop them up.
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u/Ok-Taste-570 5d ago
I’m not much for drama and violence, but I really hope Trump holes up and barricades himself at Mar-A-Lago. A Waco-type siege on his compound would be everything he and any of his cult members who might try to obstruct his being taken into custody deserve!
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u/iamisandisnt 5d ago
Guarantee team Trump said “there will not be a standoff at MAL” because there will indeed and he wants to pretend to not be the one instigating it
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u/LightenUpPhrancis 5d ago
People who work for the guy routinely communicate with him through the press, since it’s the best way to get his attention. My guess is that his lawyers are trying to preempt him from doing anything stupid.
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u/sf49ers65 5d ago edited 5d ago
You've got a better chance of teaching a 1yr college level physics then someone telling, and convincing, Donald Trump to not do something stupid.
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u/Ok-Taste-570 5d ago
He’d be a fool to do it over this basically irrelevant infraction. Getting arrested for trying to overthrow an election with an insurrection is much more worthy of a Waco-style siege. 🤣
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u/Sciencessence 5d ago edited 5d ago
No it's the point. Strategically think about it like this... He knows the J6 and other charges are coming next - those would stick and be far worse then whatever happens from this. If he can create enough unrest, with foreign aid (Russia, etc), BEFORE those charges even come, it'll make the DOJ who has been struggling to get the courage to do anything for years now to buckle/delay. So he has a few options now. Attempt to overthrow the country by force (again), incite a civil war (Putin would be oh so proud) and get in with the secessionists, or make the government fear him so much that they delay and he can "win" the election. Keep in mind if he loses the election he still has the other options on the table.
I am not big on the constitution but, our founding father's lived in scrappier times. They understood why treason and sedition were not to be fucked with. In modern times those words and their meanings have been so diluted that we don't remember their cost. I hope we don't have to learn what they mean and their actual severity anytime soon.
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u/iamisandisnt 5d ago
Yes but they won’t give him that so he has to huff and puff over Stormy Daniels instead
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u/Busy_Abroad_1916 5d ago
He’d have his people fighting and dying outside and turn out he’s not even there.
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u/secretlyjudging 5d ago
Trump is a coward at heart. He would never barricade or put himself in potential harms way. He'll ask people to do it for him though.
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u/Ok-Taste-570 5d ago
He’s never hesitated to throw his ignorant followers to the wolves. In his mind, it’s their duty.
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u/Njdevils11 5d ago edited 5d ago
Trump thrives in chaos. That is his realm. He doesn’t have a plan. he told his supporters to show up and use veiled threatening language to cover his ass. They go apeshit when police arrive and who the fuck knows what happens after that. Trump sure as shit doesn’t, but that’s point. The system needs logic, order and control, Trump doesn’t. All he needs to do is throw a metaphorical entropy grenade into the mix and let things evolve as they will.
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u/gameryamen 5d ago
While it would be entertaining, I think it would be awful if DeSantis got to use his private army to arrest the renegade ex-president as a spectacle. We'd be hearing hero worship bullshit about him all the way through 2024, and give the media an easy out for moving on from Trump to DeSantis.
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u/Ok-Taste-570 5d ago
DeSantis would be wise to do nothing and not even comment on any of it. That way he sip champagne in his little Go-Go Boots in Tallahassee and pretend to be outraged at the weaponization of the DOJ!
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u/Vrse 5d ago
Pretty sure Trump's lawyer released a statement saying he would surrender peacefully. I believe that was the day before Trump called for protests so take that with a grain of salt.
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u/DeusEx-Machinist Florida 5d ago
You know, he specifically chose Waco for his little terrorist rally next week. He's been saying things like "I am your redeemer" and other language that the Christians fap to nightly...
If he wants to pull a David Koresh...
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u/radicalindependence 5d ago
I want trump arrested, but am disappointed it could be over the hush money to a mistress. Much of America will just file it down as infidelity and not a major deal. I want Those not paying attention to realize there was an actual coup attempt and Trump instigated it and made no attempt to stop it.
Let's talk about the attempted coup. How about trying to steal the election and intimidate Georgia's Secretary of State. Hell, there's probably a dozen more offenses I've forgotten about.
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u/Mylaptopisburningme 5d ago
Well the others haven't concluded yet. So there is still hope. But I wonder when they got Capone on tax evasion if they were disappointed it wasn't for his other crimes.
My issue is I really hope they have an airtight case because if he gets off it will just empower him and his base.
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u/Kuklaa 5d ago
Point taken, but the only reason they didn't get Capone on any other charges is they didn't have sufficient evidence. He was good at being a criminal. This guy, on the other hand, we have transcripts and recordings of his crimes, there is plenty of evidence. But who knows, Cohen was tried in 2018, plead guilty, and this is still going on.
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u/Zipzmahpantzup 5d ago
This is the first because it was the simplest. The others are still in the mix but more complex and less (no?) precedent.
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u/PowerAlwaysReveals 5d ago
Too often we honor swagger and bluster and the wielders of force. Too often we excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered dreams of other human beings. Some Americans who preach nonviolence abroad fail to practice it here at home. Some who accuse others of rioting, and inciting riots, have by their own conduct invited them. Some look for scapegoats; others look for conspiracies. But this much is clear: violence breeds violence; repression breeds retaliation; and only a cleansing of our whole society can remove this sickness from our souls.
-Robert F. Kennedy
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u/hwkns 5d ago
I hope he pushes this angle. Two things; most of the first wave of insurrection the perps have flashed their hands in spades, and have been documented to a fare thee well and, this time around the police will be well prepared. A third thing should be considered, the spontaneous or otherwise outpouring of joy to the reaction to the securing of an indictment by the DOJ. Normal people's overwhelming expression of relief of finally seeing whatever constitutes a real perp walk of Donald "John" Trump (sic) would rain beautifully on the MAGA parade.
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u/north7 5d ago
the spontaneous or otherwise outpouring of joy
NYC is gonna be lit. It already happened when he lost in 2020.
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u/avantgardengnome New York 5d ago
Yup! I was there in 2020; when we heard the results I thought it’d be nice to have some champagne/Prosecco, but it turned out the liquor store on my block was already 100% sold out of bubbly lmao. We found some eventually and headed over to Washington Square Park, and ran into about a thousand other people who had the same idea—it was nuts.
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u/Mylaptopisburningme 5d ago
Election day I had to go drop off my ballot. I got super lazy and considered not going.. Then I thought of Trump winning.. I shoved my lazy ass out the door and dropped it off. Anything else in the world I probably would have put off...Not that.
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u/The_last_of_the_true 5d ago
I’m so happy Arizona has mail in ballots(even if the magas in the state house/senate wanted to destroy it). When I was younger I’d miss elections here and there but the last 15 years I’ve voted by mail and never missed an election.
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u/RNDASCII Tennessee 5d ago
I can't wait for when they show up on Monday instead.
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u/brawl 5d ago
Hey I'm all for taking away voting rights for domestic terrorists. Let this string unravel itself
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u/PapaBeahr 5d ago
What gets me is.. He's under investigation for The Georgia interference with the 2020 election, He's under investigation for Starting a FUCKING INSURRECTION.... and what's he being arrested for? Hush money to a Pron star.... Really?
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u/Ok_Government_2062 5d ago
Well you said it yourself, he has all that other stuff to look forward to after he deals with this. He's gonna be in legal trouble for the rest of his life probably.
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u/IDreamOfLoveLost Canada 5d ago
I don't wanna seem too doom and gloom, but the sort of crimes he has committed should mean that he doesn't get to walk free and continue his grift.
There are people who have spent years in jail for personal amounts of cannabis, and this asshole (who presided over the deaths of thousands of Americans over the beginning of the pandemic) gets to live better than he was prior to the presidency.
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u/SFM_Hobb3s Canada 5d ago
Hopefully one of the factors the judge will consider when trying to determine if the defendant should be remanded into custody pending his trial.
-Flight Risk? Check
-Witness Tampering? Check
-Danger to the public? Check.
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u/grixorbatz 5d ago
Is DJT even still in the country anymore?
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u/cokronk 5d ago
No. He’s in Florida.
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u/SpankyMcDangle 5d ago
Floridian here, I wish I could yell at you for being wrong.
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u/evetsleep 5d ago
I really don't think he sees this as a bad thing nor threatening. He likely sees this as a great way to get his base behind him and energized.
Also you have to remember how successful he's been in court all these years. He's got some serious super power when it comes to dodging responsibility, even when dragged into court. He knows this.
That being said nothing would make me happier than so see him finally pay some consequences for his life of being the world's biggest asshole.
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u/Chilling-With-Guava 5d ago
It's time to put the stupid fucker away and put him away...forever!
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u/NAGDABBITALL 5d ago
I wanna see him squeal "Why me?, why me?" like Paris Hilton did. Arrest him on a Friday night so he has to sit in jail until the Magistrate comes in Monday.
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u/FartPancakes69 5d ago
I heard a case of a woman who spent three months in jail after a police drug test falsely identified her bag of cotton candy as methamphetamine.
She spent three months in jail because she had no way to pay the one million dollar bond.
Does anyone think Trump is going to be treated like an average citizen? Trump won't spend thirty seconds behind bars.
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u/TheRavenSayeth 5d ago
Everywhere I’ve read is he’ll likely voluntarily surrender, they’ll process him (fingerprints/mugshot), he’ll sit in holding for a bit, a judge will see him, then release him with bond.
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u/Commercial_Yak7468 5d ago
Well unless they charge him and put him I jail for it, then it does appear to be tolerated
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u/1Eternallylost Michigan 5d ago
NYC has over 40,000 police officers. I'm sure they can handle things. Assuming, of course, that half of them don't turn out to be fox watching trump supporters.
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u/Shluappa 5d ago
Dunno how anyone can support that clown and feel like they have any ground to stand on.
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u/Bath_Amazing 4d ago
With all the excuses and opinions from these Trump supporters, I have yet to hear anybody claim that he's innocent/he didn't sex with her WHILE HE WAS MARRIED/that he didn't write the $130,000.00 check to keep her quiet/that he didn't try to hide the payment by claiming it was a business expense and that he didn't lie about it. Where are those Republican family values and the support for law and order (Trump said, "I am the law and order President!")?
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u/Prestigious-Copy-494 4d ago
Well the thugs get yet another chance to to go to prison. Trump may not find them all that enthusiastic to protest.
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