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Iran condemns France’s brutal suppression of rallies over pension reform
https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/482847/Iran-condemns-France-s-brutal-suppression-of-rallies-over-pension10.6k
u/throbbingliberal
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The Irany is killing me…
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u/Remus88Romulus 5d ago
How Iranic.
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u/SwayzeOfArabia 5d ago
Ayatoldyah this would be funny
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u/OneHundredEighty180 5d ago
I find it funny how such a Tehran-ical theocracy would come out in support of the Persia-cuted French proletariat. Maybe they have some sort of Ayatol-erior motives, but we Shah-ll see.
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u/amboandy 5d ago
Save some puns for the rest of us please
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u/OneHundredEighty180 5d ago
Sorry, my wife put an embargo on my pun usage, so I've been forced to peddle my wares on the open market. I hope Shia-ll cave Sunni or later.
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u/NouveauJacques 5d ago
Jihad me in stitches
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u/OneHundredEighty180 5d ago
She just can't handle it happening Allah the time.
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u/DeadPoster 5d ago
Stop it, I'm Rushdie-ing here!
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u/PsychologicalGain298 5d ago
Iran just mad because the Persia-cution didn't end with a senseless killing.
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u/HokiArt 5d ago
Tell her to stop being so syria-s all the time.
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u/OneHundredEighty180 5d ago
I keep trying and thinking maybe she'll love me for the way I am. Personally, I think it's a bit Mesopotamia-d up that I can't be Assyria-tive enough to stand up for myself.
Assad :'(
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u/inferiorcritic 5d ago
Why did you have Tabriz through all the puns?! Guess we can Kish this pun thread goodbye.
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u/jamesbeil 5d ago
Shah-ly there can't be many more?
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u/OneHundredEighty180 5d ago
A Reza-nable person would've stopped by now, but I just can't stop doing what I Pahlavi.
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u/thisisnotdan 5d ago
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u/Bromium_Ion 5d ago
I don’t know who’s worse, the people who post the joke but worse comments or the people who upvote them.
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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee 5d ago
With the rise of AI comments, every now and then I'll see a comment that is utter nonsense. Complete gibberish. And it'll have like 20 upvotes.
Therefore, I'm convinced that either the upvotes are made up or they mostly from bots.
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u/3412points
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When Iran makes statements like this they know it is hypocritical and ironic, they are under no illusions that they brutally crack down on internal protests.
What they are trying to do is point out the hypocrisy in nations who condemn them for something who also do it themselves, just like Iran is doing in this statement.
It doesn't really land here because what France is doing is nowhere near as bad. But the intent is to point out the irony in Western nations who condemn others for something they themselves do, the irony in this statement is the point.
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u/yuje 5d ago
Yeah, this is it exactly. Iran doesn’t care about French protesters, they just want to make their opponents seem hypocritical. If countries are shown to condemn crackdowns (or other human rights issues) in rival countries but tolerate them in friendly ones, then it also helps discredit their accusations because it makes them appear not to care based on principles and moral standards, but based on a cynical desire to weaponize human rights accusations against rival countries.
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u/flyingkiwi46 5d ago
Well after the recent peace deal between saudi and Iran that was brokered by China
Within few days there is already a cosponsored bill by both democrats & Republicans in US congress that is looking to "investigate " Saudi Arabia for it human rights violations lol
Unfortunately its pretty hard for people to take these violations seriously when they're used as threats or consequences by western governments against other countries that dont follow western instructions
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u/Yoona1987 5d ago
Well after the recent peace deal between saudi and Iran that was brokered by China
I’ve completely lost this, when did this happen? Cause that’s quite a big deal no?
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u/yuje 5d ago
It was really big news, but on the day that it happened, it was pretty suppressed on Reddit’s news feed. The biggest China-related story that day were recycled stories about Biden’s chip war. Media manipulation is real, and the US military runs targeted influence campaigns on social media just like Reddit loves to joke about enemies of doing.
In case you think it only happens on social media, here’s an example of the BBC doing its best to avoid doing any mention of China in relation to the Iran-Saudi peace deal: https://youtu.be/fND-Fgs_Vpw
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u/XimbalaHu3 5d ago
It's a deal that was made over the last 2 years according to the chinese and was signed yesterday.
Basically, another step in the new chinese silk road, China is the biggest Petrol consumer and both the saudis and iranians are BIG producers with the added fact of iran being a really big market in every conceivable metric just on the chinese doorstep.
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u/SplitPerspective 5d ago
It’s almost like you only get to be shown “China bad” narratives in western media, or it’s emphasized more, and all the good stuff is like a footnote. But there’s no propaganda in the west right?
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u/mokhandes 5d ago
China is bad indeed. China do not care about human rights or protestors of Iran. But western countries do not care about us either. They just use us as a pawn for their goals too.
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u/joe1240132 5d ago
Their opponents are hypocritical though? Also
not to care based on principles and moral standards, but based on a cynical desire to weaponize human rights accusations against rival countries.
That's literally true. The US has been selling tons of arms to Saudi Arabia to carry out genocide in Yemen while decrying supposed genocide by Russia in Ukraine for instance. They talk about how autocratic hostile regimes are, while in France we just saw a policy forced through against both the will of the people AND parts of the legislature.
Like people love trying to point out how hypocritical Iran or other nations who point out similar inconsistencies are rather than pointing out how it would be incredibly easy to avoid those accusations in the first place by countries cleaning up their own shit. What's been happening in Iran is terrible, and it should be called out. But we shouldn't give France a pass just because they're on "our side" or whatever-what they're doing is also shitty.
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u/Mehhish 5d ago
But we shouldn't give France a pass just because they're on "our side"
But I'm rooting for the protesters, lol.
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u/EmpRupus 5d ago edited 4d ago
Agree. False equivalency.
"So you guys support French government, you hate only on Iran. That's hypocritical."
So many threads on Reddit about French protests - I haven't seen any mainstream support for the French government.
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u/smellmybuttfoo 5d ago
I actually have seen support for the French government in a few of the threads. Mostly saying things like "the retirement age needs to increase due to life expectancy increasing, along with the economic issues recently, as well as French workers having the lowest retirement age, and with the most time off from work". I'm not saying I believe those things, but apparently it's out there.
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u/green_dragon527 5d ago
Yup I have seen people saying France already taxes the rich too much, crazy to hear on Reddit!
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u/Dynahazzar 4d ago
Don't worry we're not about to give them a pass even when they are *us*.
Source : I'm French
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u/Law_Equivalent 5d ago
It's not hypocrisy, France condemned Iran not for cracking down on protestors but for doing it brutally and leaving hundreds dead.
Just like if the US cracked down on protestors and beat them up, France wouldn't say anything because that's normal operating procedures in this day and age and what is deemed acceptable in the current world order.
But if the US started killed hundreds of protestors and raping them systematically than France would say something. Because that is not acceptable behavior in the current world order.
Here's an article where France condemned the Iran protests, let's see what they specifically said.
"The resolution voted late Monday and welcomed by all political groups, condemns in the "strongest terms the brutal and widespread repression" against "non-violent demonstrators".
It denounces the "use of torture" and affirms its "support for the Iranian people in their aspirations for democracy and respect for their fundamental rights and freedoms".
condemning, in particular, the restriction of women's freedoms and rights."
So France condemns use of torture, restrictions of women's freedoms and rights, and brutal crackdown,
Torture, & restrictions on women's rights and freedoms are both things we can say is commonly accepted to not happen in France on a systematic level.
Brutal crackdown is subjective so we have to draw the line somewhere that an average country would agree is the difference between a non brutal crackdown and not. Otherwise you're just going to say that every crackdown is brutal and at that point we will need a replacement word for brutal to actually quickly distinguish in a sentence the difference between something that results in some tear gas getting thrown & dozens of people gettimg arrested versus something that results in live ammunition being fired & hundreds of people getting shot, and sentenced to death.
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u/provocative_bear 5d ago
It’s also apples and oranges to anyone with half a brain though. France has broken up a protest or two, but Iran has killed about a thousand people in their crackdowns and sentenced people to death for speaking out. To describe France as brutal is a joke when Iran is unapologetically orders and orders of magnitude worse.
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u/harlysparks 4d ago
Its not really apples to oranges though. Thats simply different levels of crackdown.
But we have protests to begin with because of authoritarian means of passing unpopular legislation in the first place - no different than Iran.
And the bigger picture is simply one country that gets demonized by western media pointing out the hypocrisy. France here is a mild case. But Russia-Ukraine is a direct analog to US-Iraq, yet we saw no western boycott of American athletes in 2004 Olympics (for example) or sanctions targeted at American oligarchs engaged in war profiteering.
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u/provocative_bear 4d ago
I’ll agree that the invasion of Iraq was a senseless crime that is not so far removed from Russia’s invasion. If Putin brought up America’s invasion of Iraq, he’d still be a hypocrite but it would be a more fair comparison.
As for the French government’s move... yes it clearly goes against the popular will, but they live in a democracy, and there’s going to be hell to pay for the politicians that voted to push back the retirement age. Meanwhile, the Ayatollah will never see accountability for any of this.
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u/Yalkim 5d ago edited 5d ago
Well you twisted it a little to fit your own narrative. Here let me fix a couple of things:
Iran doesn’t care about French protesters,
they just want to make their opponents seem hypocritical…they just want to point out the hypocrisy in their opponents.
If countries are shown to condemn crackdowns (or other human rights issues) in rival countries but tolerate them in friendly ones, then it also helps discredit their accusations
because it makes them appear not to care based on principlesand moral standards, but based on a cynical desire to weaponize human rights accusations against rival countries…because it shows that they don’t care based on principles
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u/TheEarlOfCamden 5d ago
Yes because France’s treatment of protestors is totally comparable to Iran’s.
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u/otterspam 5d ago
Iran is doing this entirely to feed their propaganda machine and delegitimize legitimate accusations of human rights abuses.
The conflation of the French protests with the Iranian ones is exactly what they're hoping to accomplish and, with this comment, you bought it hook line and sinker.
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u/MyDictainabox 5d ago
Tell me with a straight face the two are moral equivalents. If not, France is ok to say, "Hey Iran, maybe not butcher your own citizens!"
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u/bigpinkbuttplug 5d ago
Their opponents are hypocrites so making them seem that way is easy.
Thing is I have more than enough room in my heart to hate the governments of Iran and France, of the US and Russia, of China and India and Pakistan... I can't stand people who out of a rightful hate for American war mongering start supporting Putin, they need to learn how to increase their capacity to hate.
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u/Zzzaxx 5d ago
Just to clarify...
It's not Iran skewing reality with their rhetoric.
They want to highlight the blatant hypocrisy that actually exists
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u/fang_xianfu 5d ago
It doesn't really help that news organisations use "rally", "protest", "demonstration", "march" and "riot" to describe exactly the same situation. And in France with the way the law works technically this is a strike, too.
So on the one hand if there's a massive peaceful protest in Iran or a demonstration in France where they're setting fire to cars, wrecking shops and fighting with police (these are just examples, not talking about any specific event), those are described using the exact same language which leaves people pretty confused.
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u/MistaRed 5d ago
Iirc there is in fact also a strike ongoing in France (specifically the garbage collectors, or am I mixing this up with the last time garbage collectors went on strike)
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u/OnceUponATie 5d ago
To be fair, there is always a strike going on somewhere in France, but you are correct, garbage collectors in Paris are currently on strike to protest recent retirement pension reforms.
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u/MistaRed 5d ago
Oh, thought I was mixing it up with the strike in Scotland.(which now that I check was back in 2022)
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u/EmpRupus 5d ago
It doesn't really help that news organisations use "rally", "protest", "demonstration", "march" and "riot" to describe exactly the same situation. And in France with the way the law works technically this is a strike, too.
Yeah, I think there was some news article about a gang/cartel "taking over Los Angeles" - and there were a lot of confused people from Latin America asking - "How can the US government allow a cartel to take over a city? Our government would immediately send military re-inforcements to take back the city."
And they had to be explained that "taking over a city" does not mean what it means there.
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u/WolverineSanders 5d ago
Frankly, while their intent is bad, I'm all for everyone calling out everyone's shit. The workers are the net winners.
The root of the problem is that many people in all nations believe in some sort nationalist or supremacist ideology, and then they imbibe and use these kinds of political statements to justify their superiority, not to demand better treatment for all
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u/t_hab 5d ago
Unfortunately the workers do not win when Iran does this. Iran’s intent is to legitimize aggression against protestors. Their false equivalence may not work on you but there are people on the political extremes to hear it and say “good for you, Iran, point out the hypocrisy. Nobody cares about human rights unless they are trying to control leaders they don’t like.” Those people are actively vying for power around the world, including France, and don’t believe for a second that workers of France will be better off with somebody like Le Pen in power.
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u/I_Know_Your_Hands 5d ago
The only net winners are boomers. Younger generations are getting fucked.
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u/Coolguy123456789012 5d ago
What brutal crackdown happened in France exactly, though? The whole messaging is bullshit. Brutal isn't what happened.
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u/SortitionUtopia 5d ago
Just yesterday i saw a woman get beat by a CRS for having tear gas protection. You can check mediapart (investigative media) or just french twitter, it's all over the place. Repression is the only thing Macron knows when it comes to enforcing his neoliberal, American style reforms. Not calling it brutal is an insult to the french people protesting (including me).
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u/ThatTallAwkwardGuy 5d ago
Macron once had his plot to build a private intelligence agency headed by his personal bodyguard exposed cause said bodyguard tried to beat a protestor to death.
France has a long history of using groups like pied noirs to do dirty work (ala MI6 UVF employment). They would purge dangerous OAS like elements out of the army and intelligence agencies if they weren't useful. This is historical fact that is disregarded as conspiracy by people who don't do reading
There's also the fact that France has been as brutal as Iran in west Africa for a while.
Sorry but you don't know history and just trying to avoiding learning to preserve a comfortable worldview.
It's this, and I'm sorry to say this honestly, racism in the west that our countries are better than others cause our media frames it that way when pretty much all western countries have been some of the most brutal and profane geopolitical actors for the last hundred years and our media has lied constantly with zero reckoning with that.
I've heard more in my country about Iranians arrested in Iran than MI5 knowingly letting our Manchester arena get bombed by one of their assets. The news, especially state or pseudo state media like the bbc guardian, NYT and wapo, is not history and search engines on the Internet have gotten markedly worse at conflating the two over the years which is why most western people are shockingly undereducated about the world. I'm including liberals and conservatives in that cause my god the amount of times I've had to politely teach them basics after they passionately rhyme off crackpot realism is honestly insane
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u/Revydown 4d ago
The news, especially state or pseudo state media like the bbc guardian, NYT and wapo, is not history and search engines on the Internet have gotten markedly worse at conflating the two over the years which is why most western people are shockingly undereducated about the world.
Yeah I had a hard time searching for information on when the US launched missiles into Iraq when the US invaded Iraq. Alot of the links were about Iran. I might be miss remembering but I could have sworn the US launched missle strikes into Iraq's cities. Which is ironic because everyone loves to pile up against Russia for doing the same thing with Ukraine. I guess the US just gets free passes.
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u/UberWidget 5d ago
Exactly, France isn’t going to execute someone for participating in the protests unlike in Iran.
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u/SortitionUtopia 5d ago
French people have lost hands and eyes protesting those undemocratic reforms. But Iran being worse somehow makes it ok? Please support our working class.
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u/joe1240132 5d ago
But those people are hurting property! What's a few eyes or limbs when those pesky rapscallions are hurting property, the thing that really matters?
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u/Coolguy123456789012 5d ago
It has nothing to do with that. I have been at brutal protest suppressions. At DAPL the police used sound weapons and killed people with their less than lethal munitions. The French police here are addressing the safety concern of these protestors starting fires. I've been in protests in France, they're civil. Nothing I've seen makes this look brutal to me. Have people at this protest lost eyes and limbs? Please show me that information.
Protesting is a pretty valued aspect of French life. I have had many interactions at protests in France with the police and they have been nothing but civil unless someone is throwing molotovs or pavés at the flics. Please link any evidence that the police response has been brutal. I haven't seen any. 61 arrests, no injuries, no deaths.
What part of extending the retirement age in an aging country has to do with the working class? This shit is a middle class issue built on the backs of the working poor who will never retire, the whole thing is false flag bullshit. Support your own working class and learn wtf you are talking about. Your ignorance hurts the project.
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u/soonerfreak 5d ago
But America did and it looks like the cops who executed the protestor at cop city might get away with it.
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u/Guybrush_Creepwood_ 5d ago
Judging by how their police/government act when France hosts international events, there's probably quite a lot of brutality tbh. Just not on the level of blatant cold-blooded murder like Iran.
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u/t_hab 5d ago
And it’s not even just to point it out. They are deliberately trying to create a false equivalence. People on the political extremes fall for these false equivalences and then horrific regimes like Iran’s can point to the discourse that they help create.
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u/joe1240132 5d ago
Good thing we have the enlightened centrist to let everyone know in the west that actually, it's ok when the government does things without popular support (or even support of their own legislative bodies) and that it's fine for the police to brutalize protesters, as long as they don't use live ammunition!
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u/newgeezas 5d ago
the irony in this statement is the point.
Just a minor correction - the hypocrisy is the point. Irony, almost by definition, can't be the point. Irony is when an outcome is opposite of the intention, in a specific way.
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u/aebulbul 5d ago
I like how you downplay the severity. It’s relative. You have a highly repressive regime that’s going to do repressive things, and you have what you would expect to be a beacon of democracy. Marcon, and his cronies are not at all behaving like one.
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u/DevilDog-Titan007 5d ago
Iran's talkin' 'bout suppression?? Yeah, right.
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u/speculatrix 5d ago
Seems like they're the experts and would know best.
"Hey, Frenchies, I see you're oppressing your people, don't do that! You've got so much to learn from us, and do it like this"
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u/AnybodyMassive1610 5d ago
IRAN: You are oppressing your protestors - very sad…
IRAN: …you can’t just let those rioters live to talk about their protests.
Seems they aren’t saying that last part out loud.
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u/lonigus 5d ago
This is a weird timeline we live in.
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u/Johannes_Keppler 5d ago
The "No you!" political trope is as old as civilization. Same stuff, different moment in time.
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u/explodingpineapple64 5d ago
I know right what kind of hellish nexus event brought us here
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u/Milkslinger 5d ago
nexus event
T H E I N T E R N E T
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u/metalconscript 5d ago
Underrated comment the double-edged sword of the internet is just about hilt deep.
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u/strangelander29 5d ago
Yes, sir, especially after all of those pension reforms for female Iranian workers.
/s and a big frownie
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u/Jugales 5d ago
Iran like, "We stand with 49.3% of the protesters. The other 50.7% should cover their heads."
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u/hart37 5d ago
I mean if anyone's going to be an expert about suppression of rallies it's Iran
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u/eg_taco 5d ago
The value of “human rights” to a nation state largely stops at being a transactional tool to deflect/distract attention in the media.
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u/DreamingIntoTheVoid 5d ago
Not even remotely comparable. I fully support the protesters in both countries but Irans crackdown involved executing protesters. Think about that. Iran sentenced a football player to death for thinking its okay for women to show their hair.
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u/Ganja_goon_X 5d ago
Exactly. All the bad faith bots and morons saying "hurr hurr +1 for Iran!" Literally forgot they killed a woman for showing her hair and killed others for protesting that murder.
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u/StrikingDebate2 5d ago
This may seem ridiculous coming from Iran but here's some food for thought. This is what the US sounds like when this criticise other countries human rights records to people in Cuba or Bolivia.
Of course I am not here to make a west bad argument. Just pointing out that all countries are hypocrites. BTW not supporting Iran here or making a West bad, East good argument.
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u/RedactedPerpetually 4d ago
Or when Biden talks about ICC arrest warrant against Putin when previous US Presidents like Bush should’ve gotten the same treatment. Or the fact that US doesn’t recognise the ICC, like Russia.
And this is not whataboutery because I want both of them to be arrested and executed for war crimes.
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u/StormShadow009 4d ago
If what you're doing is to harsh for even Iran, then maybe you might be going too far?
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u/Haunting-Ad9521 5d ago
Because there’s no deaths?
Iran: “you call that brutal suppression?! Smh”
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u/anchorsteamer 5d ago
You don’t accept criticism from someone you wouldn’t ask advice of. That goes triple for Iran.
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u/spookinky987 5d ago
...because they're cool with killing women who don't want to wear a hijab...
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u/idontneedausername8 5d ago
Not to defend Macron's policies but who gives a fuck what Iran thinks about it.
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u/Smooth_Monkey69420 5d ago
I condemn Iran’s condemnation of France’s condemnation of it’s previous pension programs
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u/stiegosaurus 5d ago
Regardless of what Iran thinks, people need to wake up to the govt's of our world taking away any right for us to push back on them. This is a huge problem, happens in Canada now in France.
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u/ApproximateOracle 4d ago
They can have an opinion on it when France captures and executes 15000 of the protestors.
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u/mia_elora 4d ago
Someone in Iran literally has to have the job to comb through Current Events news to look for things like this for PR purposes.
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u/Mikethebest78 4d ago
Yes let us look to that great bastion of human rights Iran for instructions on how to behave.
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u/Boringhusky 4d ago
Anyone who notes the hypocrisy here is using "whataboutism" according to reddit.
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u/Baron_Karza77 4d ago
Iran? The regime that murders women for not wearing the Hijab and wants mass executions for all protestor's?
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u/raging_pastafarian 5d ago
I'm sorry, brutal suppression in France? Really?
I mean, I know they're protesting the retirement age thing, but has France MURDERED anyone over it?
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u/MrEvilNES 4d ago
They've been beating up, tear gassing, maiming people (people have lost eyes from rubber bullets, and hands from trying to pick up tear gas pellets), sexually assaulting female protesters (by doing extensive body searches which included the inside of their underwear)...
I haven't heard of people getting killed during those protests, but in recent years we've had an old lady get hit by a tear gas pellet on her 4th floor balcony and die, a guy who drowned after police charged at protesters next to a river, a guy who died when a grenade got caught between his backpack and his neck, a guy who got choked to death during a traffic control...
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u/Hamzanovic 5d ago
Good for them. All nation states deserve to be a little hypocritical in their comments about other countries, as a treat. If the west can do it, Iran might as well lol
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u/Pectacular22 5d ago
This goes both ways.
Sure Iran is being blindly ironic because they obviously supress (and worse) rioters.
However, on the other hand France would condemn Irans suppression with one hand, while fisting theirs with the others.
If you want to throw stones at Irans irony, do so with France as well.
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u/pinkheartpiper 5d ago
People of France rioting over a 2-year increase in retirement age, no casualties. People of Iran rising against the dictator after a girl died in custody for the crime of letting her hair out, 500 protestors killed.
This fucking guy: BoTh SiDeS!!!1!!!
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u/Polar_Vortx 5d ago
No, bad Iran. No whataboutism.
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u/ThorinPFK 5d ago
100% agree. They're just taking a page from Russia's playbook. And such an obvious and weak attempt at it, too.
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u/shockingdevelopment 5d ago
I mean... Americans here laugh at this hypocrisy, but they think they're in a place to talk about criminal invasions. If you point that out, suddenly you've committed the sin of "whataboutism".
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u/eaglescout1984 5d ago
Iran just trying to look out for the rights of the French "people".
And by people they mean the men, women aren't people in Iran.
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u/usesbitterbutter 5d ago
I assume their condemnation was all about how France was going about it, rather than a critique of the idea itself.
NO NO NO! You must use acid and real bullets! Using tear gas and batons is for losers!
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u/rip1980 5d ago
We need a word that means more ironic than ironic.