r/interestingasfuck • u/Delicious-Let8429 • 8d ago
Passenger opens emergency door mid air during South Korea flight
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u/TheB2B0224 8d ago
What happen to the passenger/jack ass that opened the door?
Asking for Everybody
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u/UpperVoltaWithRocket 8d ago
Arrested and refuses to explain his actions apparently.
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u/Horrison2 8d ago edited 8d ago
Those little air blowers don't give you enough air so he opened a window
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u/SmokeyBare 8d ago
They farted and were just being courteous
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u/mosskin-woast 8d ago •
farts
"I am so sorry, allow me to remedy this"
Creates an international-newsworthy aviation emergency
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u/hellsbagels666 8d ago
With the amount of emergency landings because of bathroom incidents that have made the news, I think this was a well calculated risk. I'd rather be in the news as the guy who forced a landing by opening the door than because I destroyed the bathroom.
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u/mosskin-woast 8d ago
Considering the guy refuses to explain why he did it, you might be onto something
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u/NextTrillion 8d ago
Blowing a hole through the toilet, soiling everyone’s luggage, ripping apart the fuselage, and potentially contaminating countless rivers and streams below? I’d say this man is a hero.
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u/illigal 8d ago
He just likes to drive with his arm out the window doing that little pretend airplane thing with his hand.
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u/Horrison2 8d ago
He's trying to get the police to listen that the guy next to him ripped one after eating kimchi
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u/scorpyo72 8d ago
He suddenly realized he needed to talk to someone about his cars extended warranty.
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u/TheGreatGamer1389 8d ago
Hopefully banned from all major airlines. Gonna have to take a ship or private jet to travel from now on.
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u/Bunation 8d ago
Intrusive thoughts. I bet his intrusive thoughts won
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u/NihilisticAngst 8d ago
Every time I've sat in an emergency row I have that exact intrusive thought thinking "What if I pulled the handle and opened the door?". Never actually did it though
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u/theb3nb3n 7d ago
Most of the time you would not be able to open it anyways due to the difference in pressure - thank god - or we’d see shit like this more often and with bad consequences…9
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u/ALittlePeaceAndQuiet 8d ago
My first thought too. If they weren't jumping, they were wondering, "What if...?"
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u/Nick_Damane 8d ago
It appears intrusive thoughts are on the forefront this year.
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u/Strange-Ticket5680 8d ago
Intrusive thoughts won. I've never done it, but damn if I haven't thought about it
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u/Physical-Worker6427 8d ago
Every time I’m on a plane my brain decides to think that yelling out “I have a bomb!” Would be a great fucking idea. I take a bar and keep my happy ass sat down and quiet.
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u/rayparkersr 8d ago
My four old took to saying 'Brace brace' at various points in flights after watching the safety briefing.
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u/PrivatePilot9 8d ago
Dang, "Got sucked out and fell into a sewage lagoon" was what I was hoping for.
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u/GolfCourseConcierge 8d ago •
Received complimentary North Korean citizenship.
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u/BadFont777 8d ago
Via trebuchet.
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u/S-Archer 8d ago
The finest method of travel, when looking to travel up to 900 feet
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u/vladwaltmicknjudge 8d ago
Being sued by the airline, passengers, etc. Estimated at list about a million dollar or higher (exchange rate ignored.)
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u/greyarea6872 8d ago
According to local news outlets, he was recently dumped by his gf. They both moved to Jeju, and he was on the plane back to the mainland after. The passenger, a 20-30s-ish male, was questioned by authorities but refused to cooperate. His mother came to attempt to pick him up.
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u/Ok-Tradition2492 8d ago
I was on a plane 2 years ago and someone in the emergency exit seat threatened to do it and they were immediately restrained and stayed that way for the rest of the 5 hour flight.
It’s so scary to even have to think about this. So happy everyone made it out safely.
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u/Call_The_Banners 8d ago
they were immediately restrained and stayed that way for the rest of the 5 hour flight
Hell yeah. Don't mess around on an aerial vehicle filled with other people. Glad to hear the situation was taken care of swiftly and effectively.
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u/Conditional-Sausage 8d ago
Tbh, I cannot imagine being stupid enough to make threats on a plane in a world where 9/11 is still in living memory. Seems like a way to Speedrun any% getting your ass handed to you.
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u/Kentencat 8d ago
dont make a joke don't make a joke you're in a fucking airport and they don't like jokes watch what you saaaay.
"Wow, this security line was EMPTY but now it's blowing up..."
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u/soda_cookie 8d ago
This day and age people will fuck with you right back. Bet your ass there was at least one non-crew member involved in helping restrain that person
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u/Glldinkiering 8d ago
I’m not falling out the sky and dying because some jackass decided to have a bad day.
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u/Bomurang 8d ago
Might be encouraging to know that it’s physically impossible to open those doors when the plane reaches higher altitudes.
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u/Aquila-1234 8d ago
Is it dangerous for the plane in lower altitudes? Or is the only real danger that people could get sucked out?
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u/Bomurang 8d ago
I honestly don’t know if it’s dangerous for the plane, but judging from this video, it doesn’t seem like it at all.
And at this low altitude, I definitely don’t think the difference in air pressure would cause anyone to get sucked out.
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u/can_i_has_beer 8d ago
you’re right, it’s only dangerous when an explosive decompression can occur. but that needs to be high up, where anyway the doors cannot be opened due to the high speed of the aircraft
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u/douglasg14b 8d ago
the doors cannot be opened due to the high speed of the aircraft
Correction: They can't be opened due to the significant altitude pressure difference. They have to be pulled inwards before being pushed outwards. You can't pull it inwards due to the ~8k pounds of force on the door from the cabin altitude.
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u/bradland 8d ago
The door is designed so that it is slightly larger than the opening. You have to pull it inward, rotate it, then throw it out.
When the plane is pressurized at altitude, the door would have to be pulled inwards against the pressure in the cabin, which would be impossible for a human.
Cabin pressure is maintained at around 11 psi, while the outside air pressure drops with altitude. At 35,000 ft, air pressure is just below 4 psi, giving a pressure differential of around 7 psi.
The emergency exist door on an A320 (a very common jet) is just under 1,000 square inches, so the door would be held in place by 7,000 lbs of air pressure. You’re not pulling that off.
At lower altitudes — below 10,000 ft — the air pressure outside is the same as it is inside. This means that opening the door would be like rolling down the window in your car… if your car were doing 150 mph (a typical airliner landing approach speed). It’s not great, but no one is getting sucked out.
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u/gsfgf 8d ago
Is it dangerous for the plane in lower altitudes
I can't imagine so. Opening plane doors to let skydivers out or drop cargo is completely normal.
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u/FairyOfTheNight 8d ago
Were they restrained in that seat or were they moved to the back/secure area and held there? I'm so curious about this.
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u/Ok-Tradition2492 8d ago
It was actually the man’s brother beside him that restrained him and got him calmed down a little but he was still restrained in his seat with tape.
The brother explained he had developed depression during the pandemic and they were on the flight to the funeral of their mother who passed from Covid.
In the end it was sad because he was apologizing and was clearly mentally unwell but it was still a scary situation.
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u/FairyOfTheNight 8d ago
I'm sorry you had to endure that. COVID has done so many things to the planet, some that are easily recognizable and some that aren't. I'm glad you got through that event though. I am sure it was traumatic. Flying is already a big fear for many people.
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u/gissycat 8d ago
Yeah bc who's going to take the risk? Once you say it, you're done. It's like saying 💣 at an airport or airplane. You're done.
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u/hamraider 8d ago
They were at 700 ft altitude, less than 2 minutes from landing when it was opened.
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u/UltraRoboNinja 8d ago •
Everyone is always trying to be first off the plane.
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u/Doctor_Modified 8d ago
At least nobody clapped
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u/ActCompetitive1171 8d ago •
I was on a flight last week where one woman tried to start the landing clap twice unsuccessfully. God I never felt so connected to humanity in that moment on the second try where it sputtered out and stopped.
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u/MonkeyTitties1023 8d ago
I was on a flight yesterday. The approach was bumpy. Actually very bumpy. The teenaged kids sitting in front of me raised their hands like we were on a roller coaster. An appropriate response, IMHO.
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u/Competitive-Dig-4047 8d ago
Anytime I hit turbulence in a plane I think about what ww2 bomber squads went through and realize what a wuss I was being about it lol .
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u/EliIceMan 8d ago
Was it a rough or tough landing or just routine? Do people really clap for normal landings?
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u/N_2_H 8d ago edited 7d ago
I've flown many times for work and only ever seen clapping once. It was a flight where we were trying to land in 50km/h crosswind due to a tropical storm (ex-cyclone) passing over.
The pilot gave it two tries, but had to abort both times, pulling up at the last moment, presumably because of the crosswind speeds exceeding the regulation limits. The plane was rocking a lot during both attempts and the wings felt dangerously close to touching the ground lol.
But the alternative if he couldn't land would have been an hour flight to the next airport and then multiple hours of bus rides for everyone just to get back to where we were supposed to land.. so presumably everyone was really hoping we would be able to land.
The pilot's third attempt at a landing didn't feel any better, the winds were very strong and plane rocking a lot but you could feel the moment he decided to just put us down and we landed fine.
Everyone clapped and most even shook his hand as we were exiting the plane. Relieved to be down on the ground with almost no delay!
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u/Usually_Angry 8d ago
Man, I would really opt for the inconvenience of another airport. Very little in this life is worth taking unnecessary risks with others’ lives.
Not criticizing, I would trust the pilot to make the right decision (they’re they experts). But I would certainly hope that decision wasn’t made based on inconveniencing people too much
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u/pikohina 8d ago
Flight simulator pilot here: sometimes you just need a couple passes to trust your instincts and put the birds feet on the ground.
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u/must_throw_away_now 7d ago edited 7d ago
That isn't how decisions are made. There is a checklist and regulations around maximum crosswind. For a 737 the maximum crosswind it is designed to handle is around 35 knots and that would be with good braking capability (i.e. no precipitation or other issues with either the plane or runway) and these are maximum limits where airlines can set stricter standards.
During a landing both the pilot flying and pilot monitoring need to agree to land. If either disagrees or atc disagrees with a landing, the pilot flying MUST execute a missed approach procedure. All of this will be discussed during the pre-landing briefing including the relevent minima/maxima for weather conditions and criteria for diversion as well as the procedure to execute a missed approach.
The cost of losing a single airplane is astronomical. The cost of a diverted flight relative to that is minimal. Pilots landing outside of minima/maxima would have to immediately report the incident to their airline, the FAA, and NTSB in the US. A go-around itself is already a reportable incident so they would have to report conditions on the final (successful) attempt as well.
The swiss cheese model of flight safety is really important and makes flying exceedingly safe in most countries. Strict standards and regulations set by regulating authorities are geared towards safety and not cost.
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u/TalonPhoenix 8d ago
Apparently it’s a thing, maybe more common in different countries. I’ve flown a lot between USA-Colombia and never witnessed it, until recently just after my husband was telling me it’s a thing and I didn’t believe him. Of course our next flight to Colombia it happened haha. The flight was a little rough (not too bad tho), so maybe it’s more common for those
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u/Throwaway56138 8d ago
Your husband started the clap, didn't he?
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u/weftly 8d ago •
i think you catch the clap, not start it.
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u/chitownbears 8d ago
Yeah you can get it from a toilet seat my ex wife used to all the time.
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u/93_Honda_Civic 8d ago
It’s so routine for Puerto Ricans, that when I first flew within the continental USA, I was confused when nobody clapped.
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u/Salt_Winter5888 8d ago
Fuck clapping, I would fucking kiss the captain after landing the plane if I was there.
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u/Zatchillac 8d ago
Fuck clapping, I would fuck
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u/cardinarium 8d ago
Fuck clapping, I would fuck
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u/TheConeIsReturned 8d ago
I thought the people who stand up immediately upon reaching the gate were assholes, but this guy...
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u/Mecanooshee 8d ago
The longest 2 minutes ever.
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u/squirrel_love 8d ago
I was wondering how they overcame that pressure differential. Otherwise they'd have to be built like an excavator
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u/PeeweesSpiritAnimal 8d ago
She's built like a steakhouse but handles like a bistro.
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u/leviathynx 8d ago
I think about this every time I put a steering stick on some monstrosity in Tears of the Kingdom.
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u/Fuzzy_Championship95 8d ago
This is more or less what I came to say but "built like an excavator" is way better and made me laugh
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u/AFrogNamedKermit 8d ago
That makes sense. It should not be possible to open them at altitude.
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u/FlyJunior172 8d ago
There are lots of redundant locking mechanisms on these that should make it impossible to open in flight, even without pressurizing the cabin. (Especially since that doesn’t look like a plug type door)
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u/bert0ld0 8d ago
Apparently still not enough to stop crazy people
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u/FlyJunior172 8d ago
I think something failed. Not sure how though.
On the 737 (I know this probably isn’t a 73, but it’s what I’m most familiar with), the locking conditions are:
- Both thrust levers more than 53° (physical position, not an N₁ value) OR ground/air sensors sensing the aircraft is airborne
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- At least 3 main entry doors closed OR at least one engine running.
If those conditions are met (in this case, it would be aircraft in flight, engines running, and doors closed; thus satisfying one condition from item 1, and both conditions from item 2), you can pull the release handle all you want, but pins inside the frame will prevent the door from opening.
So my question now becomes: what system or redundancy failed to allow this to occur?
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u/bert0ld0 8d ago
That's a good question, I hope we'll find out. Could it be a cheaper plane?
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u/REV2939 8d ago
This was on an Airbus A321-200 so i wonder if its different but you'd think that there would be standards in design nonetheless, no?
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u/FlyJunior172 8d ago
Last time I was on American Airlines, I flew on an A321, in the exit row. I belie that door was also not plug type, or at least it wasn’t the traditional plug type door a la MythBusters blueprint room.
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u/TheNonExample 8d ago
Apparently both Korean cars and Korean planes are missing immobilizers
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u/SenseiR0b 8d ago
For some reason I was surprised no one got sucked out, like in the movies.
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u/Large_Yams 8d ago
For people to be sucked out, the aircraft has to be pressurised. Larger aircraft are pressurised when they fly over about 10,000ft so that you can breath enough oxygen. The higher you go, the less oxygen there is.
When they're pressurised, you absolutely cannot open the doors, emergency or regular. They are designed so that they push outwards against the door frame and have to be pulled inwards before they open outwards. The emergency doors are the same but they're not hinged, they just come completely off.
When they fly below 10,000ft, the cabin is depressurised because the surrounding atmosphere is high enough for regular oxygenation when you breathe.
So this aircraft was below pressurisation altitude and about to land, which is firstly why they were able to open the door and secondly why no one got sucked out. If people get sucked out it's because there was a catastrophic failure, not due to a door opening normally.
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u/mithril_mayhem 8d ago
Thank you for explaining that! I've always wondered what would happen if somebody lost the plot and tried to open one of these when the plane was pressurised.
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u/6151rellim 8d ago
They’d probably dislocate their shoulders or hips trying to open before they were ever even close succeeding
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u/2much_information 8d ago
They were at a low altitude where the pressures inside and outside of the aircraft are equalized.
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u/Bokth 8d ago
Did Mythbusters ever cover this? I'd totally wear a parachute and be 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc feet from a door (that's made to open differently to simulate instant pressure loss) to test how far the pressure vacuum goes.
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u/ClaudiaSchiffersToes 8d ago
The problem here would be getting sucked into the engines or smashing into the horizontal stabiliser
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u/trying_to_adult_here 8d ago
There have been actual accidents where people are sucked out. Aloha Airlines 243 and Turkish Airlines 981 spring to mind, so it’s not just a thing that happens in the movies. The Turkish Airlines accident occurred at 23,000 feet and the Aloha Airlines accident at 24,000 feet.
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u/RunninOnMT 8d ago
These incidents haunted me as a child. My parents were divorced and i'd fly solo across the country (boston to SF and back) as like a 7 year old.
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u/SAPPER00 8d ago
As I understand, the higher the attitude, the more pressure meaning it would be almost impossible to open at the highest altitude.
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u/Denvercoder8 8d ago
With increasing altitude, the outside pressure actually becomes lower; but as the inside pressure stays equal (above 8000ft or so), the pressure difference increases. That pressure difference is what makes it impossible to open the door.
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u/drgiggles33
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Sir do u mind if I crack the window
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u/UndauntedCandle
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Someone let their intrusive thoughts win.
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u/Alan_Smithee_ 8d ago
Staring into the abyss.
So apparently I’m not the only one who stares at that hinged lid with the yellow lever inside.
Having said that, the person that did this, assuming they’re still alive, will never fly again.
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u/Megneous 8d ago
Korea here. This was all over the news here. We watched the police carry the person. Wouldn't even let them walk by themselves. Police were lined up along the sides of the person all carrying an arm, a leg, a foot, etc.
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u/UndauntedCandle 8d ago
I'd guess that's a temptation for a lot of people. Just want to pull that lever... see what happens. Now you know, though.
And, yeah, they're on a big ol' no-fly list for sure. Hopefully, anyway.
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u/weaponized_autistic 8d ago
My first thought. That and jumping off the ski lift halfway up the mountain are my two bad ones
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u/atnator42 8d ago
Dont encourage them.
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u/Zachariah_West 8d ago
if it was for Tik Tok, there'd be some stupid dance involved first.
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u/DushyantKhator 8d ago
There was. They’re still searching for the body on ground.
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u/whooo_me 8d ago
....it's possible to defeat them?!?
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u/UndauntedCandle 8d ago
lol Technically, yes, you acknowledge what they are and then send them on their way...
Or so they say.
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u/UnrulyDonutHoles 8d ago
"Is this your first time flying?"
"NO THIS IS MY LAST"
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u/sukequto 8d ago
This passenger should be blacklisted by all airlines for life.
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u/EducatedNitWit 8d ago
Stewardess! I'd like to change seats, please. There's a bit of a draft here.
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u/stephelan 8d ago
I think the fact that the plane was landing and everyone was buckled in already was the only reason there were no casualties.
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u/TheNextBattalion 8d ago
everyone was buckled in
except for the door opener...
the only reason there were no casualties.
that's actually because the plane was under 1,000 feet and there was no significant difference in air pressure or oxygen level.
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u/Spifffyy 8d ago
Cabin pressure is pressurised to about the same as the air at 8000ft. So any altitude below that the door would be open-able. That’s also why seat belt signs stay on until 10,000ft after take-off and go on at the very latest at 10,000 feet on descent
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u/ittasteslikefeet 8d ago
Scrolled down for an explanation like this as I had heard (I suppose incorrectly) simply that no person would be strong enough to open it once the aircraft is airborne because of airpressure. Ty!
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u/CaveatEmptor93 8d ago
Is that last part you wrote, what causes this to not be possible above a certain altitude?
Could've sworn I read this wasn't possible... damn FAA and their lies grumbles (/s)
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u/Shadeauxmarie 8d ago
The air pressure differential at 30,000 feet makes it impossible.
“The cabin pressure is far too strong for anyone to open them. At a typical cruising altitude, up to eight pounds of pressure are pushing against every square inch of the interior fuselage. That's over 1,100 pounds against each square foot of the door. Cabin doors have a tapered shape that seals them once pressure is applied, much like a plug. Some doors retract upward into the ceiling; others swing outward but open inward first.”
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u/Distubabius 8d ago
To anyone not using the Imperial system, 30,000 feet is 9144 meters
1100 pounds is almost 500 kg
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u/yoda_condition 8d ago
1100 pounds is almost 500 kg
But that's still per square foot, which is useless to us Europeans with oblong feet.
8 psi is 55 kPa (kilo-pascals), or over five and a half metric tons per square meter.
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u/roby_65 8d ago
Internal pressure is way higher than the external, the door is pushed very hard by the internal pressure and weights A LOT, you can't physically open it
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u/thissexypoptart 8d ago
Also the only reason it was physically possible, as the pressure differential at cruising altitude makes the door physically impossible to open.
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u/gissycat 8d ago
So you're saying he might've quietly tried this at higher altitudes and just couldn't do it?
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u/AFrogNamedKermit 8d ago
But with a pressure difference, you cannot open the door.
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u/CheekyClapper5 8d ago
A well named door, every time it's opened is an emergency
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u/MasterFubar 8d ago
Except when it's undergoing maintenance.
I saw a video of a 747 pilot who said he was once inside an airplane under maintenance and there was an open emergency door with the inflatable slider extended. He said the temptation to slide down it was great, but he had to control himself. If he had done it, the slider would need to be submitted to special tests, and that would cost something like $40,000. Sliding down that would be the costliest five seconds of his life, he would have to pay the expenses and he would lose his job, never to work in an airline again.
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u/ayemullofmushsheen 8d ago
Do the people doing these special tests get to slide down them at least?
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u/Jukeboxshapiro 8d ago
Just got back from A320 training the they told us the same thing lol. Apparently there's some Teflon coating that gets damaged when you slide down it and has to be reapplied at the factory before it can be repacked.
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u/Darmok47 8d ago
I've seen an advertisement from an aircraft manufacturer looking for people to test the slides. They have to be able to demonstrate to the FAA that they can evacuate a fully packed plane in a set amount of time, so they pay people $200 to pretend to evacuate an aircraft and go down the slide.
Unfortunately I lived too far away, because otherwise I would have done it.
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u/Delicious-Let8429 8d ago
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u/thiefexecutive 8d ago
Why is this so far down the page? Had to scroll through the expected jokes and tripe to find this.
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u/Equal-Armadillo4525 8d ago
That individual should be dragged out on the tarmac and whipped silly by everyone on board.
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u/Itcouldberabies 8d ago
Like the line on Airplane! slapping the hysterical lady 😂
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u/pcnetworx1 8d ago
Everyone just gives them two of their hardest hits with their luggage they brought.
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u/ic11il 8d ago
And then...???
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u/LCplGunny 8d ago
I'm fighting that person after we land. On principle. I feel like I could count on some bail money comen my way from the other passengers.
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u/Big_Huckleberry9616 8d ago
Oh hell nah, I’m walking right up behind the dumbass who did that and kicking them right out the plane
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u/Nolimit6969AMC 8d ago
Just wanted some fresh air
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u/_SorcererSupreme 8d ago
me: opens the door because it's hot
the rest of the passengers on the plane: 😮
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u/RevTurk 8d ago
First they get up and start taking their baggage out of overhead storage while the plane is still on the runway now they're opening the doors before it's even landed.
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u/RandomNumbers42069 8d ago
Sick, another thing to worry about now.
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u/Stats_n_PoliSci 8d ago
One of the people in the emergency row intentionally forced the door open at 750 feet altitude. There was no sane reason to do this, and they will surely face a lifetime ban on flying and criminal charges. It’s extremely unlikely to happen again.
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u/DrBoby 8d ago
With this person no, but there are other persons. As a rule of thumb, if it happened once, it will happen again.
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u/RobGrogNerd 8d ago
make it idiot-proof, someone will build a better idiot
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u/evoslevven 8d ago
As the Park Rangers say, "the problem with building a bear proof trashcan is the large overlap between the smartest of bears and dumbest of humans".
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u/avalon01 8d ago
The only time you could open a airplane door once off the ground would be at low altitude. Other than a lot of noise and some wind, nothing would happen.
At cruising altitude, the door would be impossible to open.
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u/smurferdigg 8d ago
I always assumed you couldn’t open them in the air.
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u/FlintyMachinima 8d ago
They were only 656 feet in the air so the pressure difference would be minimal and the door would easily open
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u/popcorntrio 8d ago
Oh he tried to jump out? Sounds mental health related, but he’s screwed since he’ll likely get prison for life for putting so many at risk. Why do so many people lose their shit on planes?
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u/Odd_Coat_857 8d ago
What is the thought process behind passengers wanting to open the door? Like what makes them go through the hassle of booking a flight and navigating the hell that is the airport, just to do stuff like this and be banned forever?
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u/chaenorrhinum 8d ago
You’d think they could put an interlock on those, so if they’re above a certain altitude the door won’t open. I know it is one more thing to fail in an actual emergency, but still...
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u/i_am_covered 8d ago
I’d say the opposite. This clearly shows that no additional security is needed. Plane landed safely and no one was injured.
So they should always have the doors open. It’s just safer, people.
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u/bootorangutan 8d ago
I think they do. If the cabin is pressurized to a certain level you can’t get them open. But maybe it’s depressurized enough at the end.
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